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I did the ASM throttle body along with many other parts and tune so I don't have data on this. All of the data Toda has provided has been consistent with recorded data from third parties though so I have no reason to believe it isn't accurate. You will definitely not be looking at any massive power increases, more about optimization than anything. I found there to be a noticeable different in throttle response throughout the rev range, a bit subjective but I think that is the biggest benefit one you are looking at. There is probably a certain amount of power increase though.MikeRT4 wrote:Have you got before and after dyno plots for the ASM throttle body yet? It is supposed to have almost 10% improvement in flow - has that transpired in any performance benefits?
I swear to god Lance, just get in the fucking car.Sillyboybmxer wrote:Its an amazing machine.
Letting the side down - I expected more from you with definitive before and after plots - you've obviously become giddy with the overdose on carbonandrewhake wrote:I did the ASM throttle body along with many other parts and tune so I don't have data on this. All of the data Toda has provided has been consistent with recorded data from third parties though so I have no reason to believe it isn't accurate. You will definitely not be looking at any massive power increases, more about optimization than anything. I found there to be a noticeable different in throttle response throughout the rev range, a bit subjective but I think that is the biggest benefit one you are looking at. There is probably a certain amount of power increase though.MikeRT4 wrote:Have you got before and after dyno plots for the ASM throttle body yet? It is supposed to have almost 10% improvement in flow - has that transpired in any performance benefits?
It's not that I am not interested, it's just at some point it is a pointless endeavor to replicate individual results when clear information has already been provided and results are consistent. It becomes more of an exercise in self-gratification than anything. If they didn't already provide the data I wouldn't buy the parts. I don't have access to an engine test bench like they do, and fresh F20/F22Cs to objectively test parts and minimize the variables.MikeRT4 wrote:Letting the side down - I expected more from you with definitive before and after plots - you've obviously become giddy with the overdose on carbonandrewhake wrote:I did the ASM throttle body along with many other parts and tune so I don't have data on this. All of the data Toda has provided has been consistent with recorded data from third parties though so I have no reason to believe it isn't accurate. You will definitely not be looking at any massive power increases, more about optimization than anything. I found there to be a noticeable different in throttle response throughout the rev range, a bit subjective but I think that is the biggest benefit one you are looking at. There is probably a certain amount of power increase though.MikeRT4 wrote:Have you got before and after dyno plots for the ASM throttle body yet? It is supposed to have almost 10% improvement in flow - has that transpired in any performance benefits?!
I read that and all I see is "Bla-bla, excuse, bla-bla lame, bla-bla lazy"andrewhake wrote:It's not that I am not interested, it's just at some point it is a pointless endeavor to replicate individual results when clear information has already been provided and results are consistent. It becomes more of an exercise in self-gratification than anything. If they didn't already provide the data I wouldn't buy the parts. I don't have access to an engine test bench like they do, and fresh F20/F22Cs to objectively test parts and minimize the variables.MikeRT4 wrote:Letting the side down - I expected more from you with definitive before and after plots - you've obviously become giddy with the overdose on carbonandrewhake wrote:
I did the ASM throttle body along with many other parts and tune so I don't have data on this. All of the data Toda has provided has been consistent with recorded data from third parties though so I have no reason to believe it isn't accurate. You will definitely not be looking at any massive power increases, more about optimization than anything. I found there to be a noticeable different in throttle response throughout the rev range, a bit subjective but I think that is the biggest benefit one you are looking at. There is probably a certain amount of power increase though.!
Also, many of these parts are designed as part of a package, and more importantly they aren't necessarily additive. So you test a testipe, and then test a header, and then and exhaust, and look at all those deltas, doesn't mean you are going to be able to add all that together with all the parts installed and expect the same results. It makes a lot more sense to test the package of parts you actually intend to run and use day to day, and find the best combination and minimize compromises. Mid-range power is my largest priority and the package of parts I have chosen to use reflect that.
Yeah that's gonna be a no for me dawg.MikeRT4 wrote:I read that and all I see is "Bla-bla, excuse, bla-bla lame, bla-bla lazy"andrewhake wrote:It's not that I am not interested, it's just at some point it is a pointless endeavor to replicate individual results when clear information has already been provided and results are consistent. It becomes more of an exercise in self-gratification than anything. If they didn't already provide the data I wouldn't buy the parts. I don't have access to an engine test bench like they do, and fresh F20/F22Cs to objectively test parts and minimize the variables.MikeRT4 wrote:
Letting the side down - I expected more from you with definitive before and after plots - you've obviously become giddy with the overdose on carbon!
Also, many of these parts are designed as part of a package, and more importantly they aren't necessarily additive. So you test a testipe, and then test a header, and then and exhaust, and look at all those deltas, doesn't mean you are going to be able to add all that together with all the parts installed and expect the same results. It makes a lot more sense to test the package of parts you actually intend to run and use day to day, and find the best combination and minimize compromises. Mid-range power is my largest priority and the package of parts I have chosen to use reflect that.. Sort it out or you are dead to me
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To restore the status quo, please revert back to standard throttle body and previous map , dyno, re-fit throttle body and new map, dyno again and post overlaid graphs.
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